{"id":159446,"date":"2025-07-11T17:03:38","date_gmt":"2025-07-11T17:03:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bkperfection.com\/convoco\/?p=159446"},"modified":"2025-07-11T17:31:02","modified_gmt":"2025-07-11T17:31:02","slug":"138-liquid-power-water-as-the-commodity-of-the-future-john-rigas-corinne-flick","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bkperfection.com\/convoco\/138-liquid-power-water-as-the-commodity-of-the-future-john-rigas-corinne-flick\/","title":{"rendered":"#138 Liquid Power: Water as the Commodity of the Future \u2013 John Rigas &#038; Corinne Flick"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\"><p>[vc_row row_height_percent=&#8221;0&#8243; override_padding=&#8221;yes&#8221; h_padding=&#8221;2&#8243; top_padding=&#8221;5&#8243; bottom_padding=&#8221;0&#8243; overlay_alpha=&#8221;50&#8243; gutter_size=&#8221;3&#8243; column_width_percent=&#8221;100&#8243; shift_y=&#8221;0&#8243; z_index=&#8221;0&#8243; content_parallax=&#8221;0&#8243; uncode_shortcode_id=&#8221;212803&#8243;][vc_column column_width_percent=&#8221;100&#8243; 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